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A Conversation with Resilience Expert, David Giffen

Podcast Episode 20


George Arabian


Mar. 05, 2024


29 min

Discover practical strategies for building resilience, gaining a fresh perspective on challenges, and creating a culture of #resilience in the workplace and beyond. All that and more in this episode of the Brews & Buzzwords podcast, featuring author and resilience expert, David Giffen. Tune in for an inspiring dialogue that transcends boundaries and empowers you to thrive in the face of change. Don’t miss this opportunity to unlock the secrets of resilience with David Giffen and NVISION CEO, George Arabian.

The Transcript


In this episode of Brews & Buzzwords, George sets out to explore the importance of resilience, hear inspiring stories, and gain valuable insights from David Giffen, an award-winning author, keynote speaker, and coach. Through his work with the 403LC, David has helped many individuals overcome challenges and find the strength to persevere. Resilience is a key attribute that can greatly impact our mental health and success in both personal and professional realms.

The Power of Resilience

Resilience is the ability to bounce back from adversity, to adapt and recover when faced with challenges. It is a quality that can be developed and strengthened over time. Resilient individuals are better equipped to handle stress, maintain mental well-being, and thrive in the face of obstacles.

David Giffen shares a powerful story that resonates with people from all walks of life. The story about a man who falls into a hole and is joined by a friend who has been down that road before. This story highlights the importance of connection and support in building resilience. We are not alone in our struggles, and having someone by our side who understands our journey can make a significant difference.

The 403LC: A Collective of Support

The 403LC, founded by David Giffen, is a leadership collective that offers support and guidance for individuals facing challenges. The number, 403, holds a special meaning for David, as it represents the apartment where he found a supportive community during a difficult time in his life. The 403LC serves as a reminder that resilience is not a solitary journey but one that can be shared with others.

In today’s society, where social media messaging and societal pressures can lead to feelings of inadequacy and isolation, the need for support networks like the 403LC becomes even more crucial. By connecting with others who have faced similar challenges, individuals can find solace, guidance, and motivation to keep moving forward.

Resilience in the Business World

Resilience is not only vital in personal life but also in the business world. As George mentions, running a business is far from easy. It requires perseverance, the ability to adapt to changing circumstances, and the willingness to face challenges head-on.

David’s quote, “Leaders are not born, they are forged in the fires of change,” encapsulates the essence of resilience in the business realm. Successful leaders have often faced significant challenges and failures along their journey. It is through these experiences that they develop the resilience necessary to navigate through turbulent times.

In today’s fast-paced and ever-changing business landscape, resilience is a crucial trait for entrepreneurs and business owners. It allows them to weather storms, learn from failures, and keep moving forward towards their goals.

Navigating the Challenges of Social Media and Mental Health

The impact of social media messaging on mental health is an area of concern in today’s society. George raises an important point about the toxicity often found in social media platforms. While social media can provide opportunities for connection and inspiration, it can also contribute to feelings of inadequacy, comparison, and isolation.

David acknowledges this issue and emphasizes the need for authenticity in online interactions. He encourages individuals to be their true selves and to live and breathe their values. By embracing authenticity, we can foster genuine human connection and combat the negative effects of social media.

As David rightly points out, mental health struggles and addiction do not discriminate based on socio-economic status or cultural background. They affect individuals from all walks of life. The stigma surrounding these issues often prevents people from seeking help and support. By creating a culture of openness and understanding, we can build resilience collectively and support each other through difficult times.

The Importance of Self-Care and Self-Reflection

One of the key takeaways from David’s insights is the importance of self-care and self-reflection. In the midst of challenges, it is crucial to take care of oneself and prioritize mental well-being. By doing so, we can better support those around us and find the strength to overcome obstacles.

David’s book, “Redemptive Trauma: Confessions of a Defrocked Priest,” delves deeper into his personal journey of resilience and self-discovery. It serves as a powerful reminder that no matter how challenging life may seem, there is always hope for redemption and growth.


Resilience is a fundamental quality that can greatly impact our lives, both personally and professionally. By embracing resilience and seeking support from others, we can navigate the challenges we face and emerge stronger on the other side.

Remember, you are never alone, and there is always someone willing to jump down into the hole with you. Whether in the workforce or in personal life, resilience is a valuable trait that can lead to success and fulfillment.

If you are interested in learning more about David Giffen and his work, you can find his book, “Redemptive Trauma: Confessions of a Defrocked Priest,” at Indigo, Amazon, and Barnes & Noble. Remember, you have the strength within you to overcome any challenge that comes your way.

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